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Ankoopa
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Name Ankoopa
Category 3DS
Game Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions
Section Non-Playable Characters
Submitted October 8, 2017
Uploaded By Ploaj
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Hello everybody! I’ve gone ahead and requested one last revision to this sheet asking for it to be renamed back to Ankoopa. As noted by the folks over at Super Mario Wiki, Ankoopa is not actually a fan name, but rather the official title used in-game. This name is probably a better fit than the generic “Turtle” used in the Prima Guide. Especially since this guide in particular had a bad habit of referring to clearly named entities via generic capitalized titles (IE, the “S.S. Chuckola” being named “Pirate Ship”.) Additionally, Ankoopa does actually have a unique name in multiple languages, including Japanese (Nokottasu), which seemingly confirms that they are their own entity, separate from a normal Koopa Troopa. Thanks, and I hope that this helps clear things up! :D
Ankoopa Jun 23, 2024 1:37 AM
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literally unplayable
Mr Yporolsa Apr 28, 2020 10:48 AM
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So it's just Big Koopa Troopa now. He may be big, but he lost a few pounds.
KaraszKun Apr 30, 2018 4:56 PM
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Also, maybe instead of just complaining about the name being wrong, give us the right name too? Like Ploaj said, you can also submit a revision yourself to request that the name be updated.

Edit: Actually, I just saw that you submitted a revision. I'll take a look at it now.
Petie Administrators Oct 15, 2017 9:36 PM
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Anyone can submit a revision

I just named the sheet the same as the one in the GBA section; I didn't know it was a fan-name
Ploaj Oct 15, 2017 7:22 PM
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....can someone at least rename the sheet from the nonsensical fan name?
Doc von Schmeltwick Oct 15, 2017 1:02 AM
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Just when I thought the game couldn't feel any more generic.
MotorRoach Oct 14, 2017 8:01 PM
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@ShyGuyXXL True that. lol
Nitwitsworld Oct 11, 2017 2:55 AM
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@Nitwitsworld I mean... the purpose of a shell IS protection so... I guess? ^^'
ShyGuyXXL Oct 10, 2017 11:59 PM
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@ShyGuyXXL I forgot that the older sprite did have the shell behind the head thing. lol

Do you think it's to protect their brains from damage like a hit on their back of the head?
Nitwitsworld Oct 10, 2017 11:03 PM
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I could be a jerk now and make a sprite like that, just to annoy you. xD

...but I'm too lazy. :P
ShyGuyXXL Oct 9, 2017 9:02 PM
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Well as long as I don't have to see that weird go-behind-the-head shell, it's all good to me XD.
Doc von Schmeltwick Oct 9, 2017 8:44 PM
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ShyGuyXXL Oct 9, 2017 6:48 PM
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@Doc But this was 2003, not 1985. But who cares. To me they will always just be "those big, fat, doofy Koopas from Superstar Saga".
...who later got generified in the remake.
I'll make my own take on this character when I get the time.
ShyGuyXXL Oct 9, 2017 2:58 PM
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Because everyone makes mistakes, and this company also called three separate enemies from the same game "King Bill" at one point. Still, they're licensed by Nintendo.

Also "Mushroom Person" actually was an early English name for Toads back when "Toad" only referred to the character.
Doc von Schmeltwick Oct 9, 2017 2:42 PM
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@Doc Maybe it was a mistake. I'm just not convinced. I mean why would they just call it "Turtle" anyway? That's like calling a Toad "Mushroom Person". Or calling a Piranha Plant "Venus Flytrap". It just screams not canon.
ShyGuyXXL Oct 9, 2017 2:35 PM
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@ShyGuyXXL But it's capitalized.....
Doc von Schmeltwick Oct 9, 2017 2:20 PM
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@Doc According to Mario Wiki, the Prima Guide just says "A giant Turtle blocks the passage to a cave to the right of the watering hole."
That's a description, not a name.
That's like saying "Near Hoohoo Village there's a fan-powered piggy bank that spits out coins and mushrooms."
But that wouldn't mean the thing's canonical name is Piggy Bank. It's just a term that the writer came up with on the spot, to describe it.
So maybe the japanese guide is similar. Maybe it's just called Nokonoko since they didn't have a more specific name for it. Technically it is a Koopa (I just say Koopa without Troopa for simplicity sake) but that's like calling a Laser Snifit a Snifit, it's not incorrect, it's just oversimplified.
I can't read japanese so I wouldn't know the context.

BUT NONE OF THIS MATTERS!
Even if their names were Koopoopadoopas, that still doesn't change the fact that they look the way they look.
If they were supposed to look like normal big Koopas,
they would've made them look like normal big koopas. But they didn't.
You keep calling them ugly, but I don't get how that's a bad thing in the case of these fat Koopoopadoopas.
They're supposed to look this way. It's not like they look doofy because the artist was bad at their job or they made them doofy by accident. They were designed this way.
This even reflects in their dialog. They repeatedly go "durr" in their dialog, which is a stereotypical fat dumb person "sound". It's like when Marilyn of the Shadow Sirens goes "guh" all the time.

And even if they didn't make them look doofy in this remake and only made them fat, what would be so bad about that?
ShyGuyXXL Oct 9, 2017 11:07 AM
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They DID have a canonical name. It was Turtle, according to Prima. And Japanese name means creator's intent. Besides, the original "Hammer Bros." looked like deranged Sledge Bros. The off-model designs of the original were ugly, and I'm glad they've been ridden of. Also it's Koopa TROOPA, not just "Koopa." There is no plain "Koopa." Except maybe Bowser's species. I'm really getting annoyed with people doing that. All Troopas are Koopas, but far from all Koopas are Troopas.
Doc von Schmeltwick Oct 9, 2017 10:32 AM
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@Doc von Schmeltwick
If they were always intended to just be regular Troopas, then why did they make them look fat and doofy?
Maybe because they were meant to be fat and doofy?
The reason they have no special canonical name is because no one ever mentions them anywhere.
Fact is, they had a unique design in the original game which they should've kept. Even a generic Sledge Bro would've been more fitting than just a regular big Koopa.
Their fatness was important, because it meant they weren't easy to get out of the way. That made it feel less arbitrary that you couldn't just push them away or hammer them away.
Besides, it made them memorable.
ShyGuyXXL Oct 9, 2017 10:19 AM
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