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Turtle
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Non-Playable Characters
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Submitter Ploaj
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Apr 30, 2018, 4:56 PM
So it's just Big Koopa Troopa now. He may be big, but he lost a few pounds.
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Oct 15, 2017, 9:36 PM
Also, maybe instead of just complaining about the name being wrong, give us the right name too? Like Ploaj said, you can also submit a revision yourself to request that the name be updated.

Edit: Actually, I just saw that you submitted a revision. I'll take a look at it now.
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Oct 15, 2017, 7:22 PM
Anyone can submit a revision

I just named the sheet the same as the one in the GBA section; I didn't know it was a fan-name
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Oct 15, 2017, 1:02 AM
....can someone at least rename the sheet from the nonsensical fan name?
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Oct 14, 2017, 8:01 PM
Just when I thought the game couldn't feel any more generic.
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Oct 11, 2017, 2:55 AM
@ShyGuyXXL True that. lol
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Oct 10, 2017, 11:59 PM
@Nitwitsworld I mean... the purpose of a shell IS protection so... I guess? ^^'
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Oct 10, 2017, 11:03 PM
@ShyGuyXXL I forgot that the older sprite did have the shell behind the head thing. lol

Do you think it's to protect their brains from damage like a hit on their back of the head?
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Oct 9, 2017, 9:02 PM
I could be a jerk now and make a sprite like that, just to annoy you. xD

...but I'm too lazy. :P
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Oct 9, 2017, 8:44 PM
Well as long as I don't have to see that weird go-behind-the-head shell, it's all good to me XD.
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Oct 9, 2017, 6:48 PM
@Doc
Well, here's my version:
https://shyguyxxl.deviantart.com/art/Fat-Koopa-Re-Fatted-708881204
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Oct 9, 2017, 2:58 PM
@Doc But this was 2003, not 1985. But who cares. To me they will always just be "those big, fat, doofy Koopas from Superstar Saga".
...who later got generified in the remake.
I'll make my own take on this character when I get the time.
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Oct 9, 2017, 2:42 PM
Because everyone makes mistakes, and this company also called three separate enemies from the same game "King Bill" at one point. Still, they're licensed by Nintendo.

Also "Mushroom Person" actually was an early English name for Toads back when "Toad" only referred to the character.
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Oct 9, 2017, 2:35 PM
@Doc Maybe it was a mistake. I'm just not convinced. I mean why would they just call it "Turtle" anyway? That's like calling a Toad "Mushroom Person". Or calling a Piranha Plant "Venus Flytrap". It just screams not canon.
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Oct 9, 2017, 2:20 PM
@ShyGuyXXL But it's capitalized.....
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Oct 9, 2017, 11:07 AM
@Doc According to Mario Wiki, the Prima Guide just says "A giant Turtle blocks the passage to a cave to the right of the watering hole."
That's a description, not a name.
That's like saying "Near Hoohoo Village there's a fan-powered piggy bank that spits out coins and mushrooms."
But that wouldn't mean the thing's canonical name is Piggy Bank. It's just a term that the writer came up with on the spot, to describe it.
So maybe the japanese guide is similar. Maybe it's just called Nokonoko since they didn't have a more specific name for it. Technically it is a Koopa (I just say Koopa without Troopa for simplicity sake) but that's like calling a Laser Snifit a Snifit, it's not incorrect, it's just oversimplified.
I can't read japanese so I wouldn't know the context.

BUT NONE OF THIS MATTERS!
Even if their names were Koopoopadoopas, that still doesn't change the fact that they look the way they look.
If they were supposed to look like normal big Koopas,
they would've made them look like normal big koopas. But they didn't.
You keep calling them ugly, but I don't get how that's a bad thing in the case of these fat Koopoopadoopas.
They're supposed to look this way. It's not like they look doofy because the artist was bad at their job or they made them doofy by accident. They were designed this way.
This even reflects in their dialog. They repeatedly go "durr" in their dialog, which is a stereotypical fat dumb person "sound". It's like when Marilyn of the Shadow Sirens goes "guh" all the time.

And even if they didn't make them look doofy in this remake and only made them fat, what would be so bad about that?
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Oct 9, 2017, 10:32 AM
They DID have a canonical name. It was Turtle, according to Prima. And Japanese name means creator's intent. Besides, the original "Hammer Bros." looked like deranged Sledge Bros. The off-model designs of the original were ugly, and I'm glad they've been ridden of. Also it's Koopa TROOPA, not just "Koopa." There is no plain "Koopa." Except maybe Bowser's species. I'm really getting annoyed with people doing that. All Troopas are Koopas, but far from all Koopas are Troopas.
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Oct 9, 2017, 10:19 AM
@Doc von Schmeltwick
If they were always intended to just be regular Troopas, then why did they make them look fat and doofy?
Maybe because they were meant to be fat and doofy?
The reason they have no special canonical name is because no one ever mentions them anywhere.
Fact is, they had a unique design in the original game which they should've kept. Even a generic Sledge Bro would've been more fitting than just a regular big Koopa.
Their fatness was important, because it meant they weren't easy to get out of the way. That made it feel less arbitrary that you couldn't just push them away or hammer them away.
Besides, it made them memorable.
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Oct 9, 2017, 5:51 AM
@KaraszKun
Read my comment below. There never were any "Ankoopas."
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Oct 9, 2017, 4:57 AM
Replacing Ankoopa with a Big Koopa Troopa? Did they pick the one from Jungle of the Giants?
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Oct 9, 2017, 3:37 AM
"AnKoopa" is an unofficial name. The official English name is "Turtle."

And the official Japanese name? Nokonoko. Meaning these were always intended to just be regular Troopas. Meaning they didn't make them boring, they made them less horrifically ugly.
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Oct 8, 2017, 3:37 PM
Wow, they even made this guy boring.
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