Such a wholesome comments section.

@MisterMike:

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It's funny you should say that. While it's certainly uncommon these days, back when the forums were active, this kind of critique was one of the primary purposes of the community. When it's done as it was here (constructively rather than in a negative or mean way), this kind of feedback was a wonderful way for new spriters to learn and grow. Unfortunately, not everyone was so constructive and with the death of forums, the back and forth critiquing process kind of went by the wayside but it's an important part of the site's history nonetheless.

@TakeTwoAncy @KirbyLover2048 Thanks you two! Man, you lads, uhh... really get into your criticisms. Which isn't a bad thing, mind, just uhh... uncommon for a wesbite like this. Nevertheless, I'll try to answer as much of your questions as I can.

Firstly, this is very much supposed to be Asriel post college. I know his adult self in Undertale was pretty sizeable, but given him and Kris grew up together, all of their friends seem to be around the same age and size, and considering Ralsei's size, I figured he'd likely be around that size as well. Also keep in mind that the typical age for someone attending college is around 17-24, and Toriel and Asgore are... pretty old, at least in their 40s or 50s. Considering that, it'd make sense for Asriel to be around this size. Kid still has plenty of time to grow, y'know?

Second, the overworld sprites. I agree that the face doesn't quite seem... "goat-like", but that wasn't exactly my main focus. Rather, it was to ensure that his face was not only expressive, but easily readable. It's pretty tricky, and at the end of the day some compromise needed to be made. Ultimately, I feel I made the right call with how his face looks.

His mugshots were very much the same thing, they were made to be expressive rather than adhere to a more rigid facial structure. A good example is his fangs. Representing his fangs in certain frames is difficult to do without making the mouth look weird, so I elected not to add them in. (This is consistent with how Ralsei's mugshots work, by the way.) That said, while I don't think they look bad as they are right now, I agree that some changes can and should be made. Specifically, the last mugshot was indeed a reference to Flowey's shock face done entirely for the sillies, it's supposed to look different from the others due to it's more humorous context.

I do agree, however, that I could've done a bit more to keep it consistent with the others, so I've slightly rearranged nose and mouth and added fangs to said mouth. I've also reluctantly added eyebrows to match with the rest of the faces. Speaking of changes, with regards to the minor inconsistencies mentioned, I've fixed those as well. If you notice anything else off about the sheet, do let me know!

@TakeTwoAncy I'd argue that the mouth on the overworld sprites is simplified because of the teeth (fangs?) being too small of details from that size. Trying to edit it like so could make it seem like one of those coy / cat mouths. (Y'know, the ":3" face.) This even applies to Toriel and Asgore due to the way Toby made their sprites at first, even carrying over to deltarune; It'd look even goofier as a result.


That being said, I think the portraits could use some work too. Most of them are fine, but I think removing the teeth (fangs???) kind of detriments some of the faces, even if it's for a little more expressive humor. I also think Mike could move the chin up or down for specific expressions, but it's fine as-is.


The main issue I have is that final face, though. I don't like how it's a near-copy of Flowey's same face in UNDERTALE. Asgore showed the same emotion in another part of the game, but Mike's edit is more similar to Flowey than Asgore. No eyebrows, the eyes being full circles*, and the way the mouth is shaped (+ no sharp teeth again) just feels off-putting to me. If others think it's fine, that's alright, I just think it looks weird.


Last thing I'll say is that there's a couple of inconsistencies in the sheet (moreso nitpicks I guess). Asriel's pupil shape doesn't line up on some portrait sprites, and the hearts on the front of the bumper car aren't correct with the logo of deltarune (bottom heart should point down, not up). That's all of my feedback for now.

this

is awesome!

this is really really good! seems to go for a like. not after college but as a teen asriel but i think works really well! especially as a maybe unintentional??? antithesis to ralsei, who is this superficially comforting mirage of asriel
P.S. oh dear this comment got way longer than i expected!! terribly sorry



if i can share any feedback, the mouth looks a bit weird

the textbox icons look a little bit too flat, which is understandable!! it's hard to represent a goat snout (that long part with the nose many animals have) from this perspective! i think toriel's textbox sprites are a good example for this artstyle though
the mouth is limited the very bottom of the face and is slightly curved to match the head shape, to mimic what real goats are like! only, wider, for a different character design

this applies to the overworld sprites too! they sometimes look a bit too much like a big goofy smile instead of a snout
eg, the "happy" sprites' mouth does try to follow the like, snout shape, whereas the front-ish facing "happy feet!!" ones or the shoulder punch just kinda look like the snout is gone because of how close the mouth is to the rest of the face

and stuff like entering the dark world, asriel shaking his head, entering the teacup, i think are the same deal!
toriel's overworld sprites look a bit goofy for a similar reason, but i think less so because they have the mouth further from the eyes, and try to account for the snout whenever the head angle isn't head on (see "(unused) phone shake" and "sitting" from her sprite sheet for deltarune!)

Woah, I've been wondering what an older Asriel could look like, and this is perfect! I think the only thing it's really missing is a battle icon (or name). Excited to see how these'll compare to the official sprites.

@998TheNewOrchestra Thanks.

@Mec Burna Blasta Thank you! And yeah, I think there's a good chance that'll happen.

@KirbyLover2048 Thanks! I'd find it hilarious if people start using these in fan animations in the future, stuff like "DELTARUNE CHAPTER 7 LEGIT LEAK 2025". Either that or something more wholesome.

@ÿZEROLIGHT Asgore also makes the same face, actually.

I see a flowey face in there!

Mister Mike blows open the possibilities for deltarune fan-animations 2022 colorized (NOT FAKE)

ok jokes aside, these are REALLY cool!! You captured Asriel's sprites perfectly, and I like the usage of other characters' sprites like Susie's shoulder punch. Very well-done!

This is so great, I really hope Asriel enters The Dark World at some point

This is amazing!