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Submission Guidelines [Updated: 8/1/2012] - Shadowth117 - 06-03-2010 09:58 PM
So you'd like to submit to the Models Resource, huh? Well the process is pretty much the same as submitting to TSR with a few notable differences due to the submissions being 3d models. However there are a few important additions because of that so even if you've submitted to that website please take a quick read over these rules.
Note: If you're new to model ripping, or are interested in it but don't know where to start, you can find an in-depth tutorial that guides you step-by-step through the process of extracting .BRRES format models and other files from Wii/GameCube ISOs using Dolphin, getting them ready for submission, and other information that all beginners should know, here (but don't forget to read these guidelines as well before you start!): http://www.spriters-resource.com/community/showthread.php?tid=19564
The Icon Maker
Basically how you create icons for your submissions. Its pretty straightforward to use and isn't all that hard to learn how to use.
Download it here: http://www.spriters-resource.com/community/showthread.php?tid=6534
Post images of your rip
These aren't just screenshots of the model ingame. These are screenshots of your actual model at a decent size. This is to make sure the models are a decent quality rip before they're submitted. Its obviously not the best thing to have a model with a bunch of distortion and or missing parts. Make sure the materials are applied as well so that we can see the state of the UVW maps on the model(s). While messed up UVW's are understandable, its best if we know if they are or not so that if we get another rip later with better ones we can put it up.]
This isn't required, but it'll get your model up on the site quicker since it probably won't have to be examined for quality beforehand.
Try to get the best quality rip possible
A rather important rule that kind of tyes in with the first rule a bit. ALWAYS go for the best quality rip you can. For example, if choosing between a game specific extractor or 3D Ripper DX try to get the rips from the game specific extractor. These are almost always better rips since they'll usually get you a T-posed model or even details that would have been difficult to find ingame. If you are forced to rip from 3D Ripper DX or a similar program (and you are absolutely sure there isn't another way to rip what you're ripping) then make sure to rip the model you want at the most simple and symetric animation. This is for the end user so that they are able to rig the model as easily as possible. If a character's arm is bent up a bunch and their geometry is intersecting itself then it could cause problems later for that reason. Obviously this applies to the textures provided with the rip as well in that textures with .jpg noise all over them or messed up in a similar way won't be accepted.
Be sure to include all relevant textures
Not completely required, but definitely good to have. If you're submitting something you should definitely try to get all of its texures as well. You don't need to submit the HUD with a character obviously, but you shouldn't just submit the model textureless or with missing textures if you can avoid it. Examples of things that SHOULD be included are textures like bump maps, detail maps etc. as well. Textures should be submitted in .PNG format as well. .BMP isn't preferred, but is accepted as well though ONLY if the texture didn't originally have transparency anyway and you compress your model archive well.
It must be YOUR rip
Pretty much self explanatory. If you didn't rip it, you shouldn't be submitting it. Keep in mind that using a utility by someone else to rip stuff is perfectly fine. Its just taking a bunch of rips someone else did and submitting it under your name that I have a problem with.
Note that models ripped from a different game than they are originally from such as say a Mario model in Garry's Mod should NOT be submitted. This is because not only would these have been gotten second hand, but they are, to be quite honest, often low grade rips originally and being secondhand have the possibility of having been tampered with.
Use another site to host your rips
While you CAN attach things directly to your post, its a bit of waste of the server space to store the same rip twice since they have to be uploaded to the main site as well. They did make file hosting sites for a reason.
Here's a list of free sites you can use to upload things. You can use your own, but it has to be somewhere you don't need to be a member to download from.
About the Collada .DAE format
Over time there a few different plugins have been made with slight things adapted to essentially the same format. This section is to help explain them and tell you which forms of the format are acceptable to submit. Also keep in mind that you'll want probably want to use 3ds Max or Maya for this. I've got nothing against Blender or any other 3d program, but I don't generally use them and so have less experience with their plugins and haven't heard good things about their .DAE support. I'd like to support another format that allows for storing rigged models, but as of time of this writing this site doesn't.
First off, AutoDesk has their own plugin for the format. While I'd advised against it in the past, it has since gotten better and is probably the only .DAE plugin for Max that gets regular updates and has a fair amount of support at this point. Keep in mind though that it does NOT import Collada Max or OpenCollada .DAE's correctly; it gets only the geometry and bones, but no rigging while materials are just gone. Just make sure to have the latest version of the plugin which you can get here: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/item?siteID=123112&id=10775855
Probably the best plugin for opening the .dae models for 3ds Max and Maya can be obtained here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/colladamaya/ (I know its says ColladaMaya, but it has both).
Formerly known as ColladaNextGen, OpenCollada http://opencollada.org/download.html also seems to work well although it reads the alpha in transparent materials exported from ColladaMax from the RGB intensity rather than the image alpha. When importing a file exported from this plugin, you will sometimes also have to fix the material (which for most models you would do anyway to add maps not supported by a .dae) so that it doesn't have a grayish tint over it. Sometimes it will also mangle materials on import if it was the plugin that exported them for some reason. It has plugins for Maya as well as Max.
The problem is that it occasionally screws up the material assignments. Because of this I'd really prefer if ColladaMax was used, but OpenCollada is accepted so long as you make sure the materials work fine after reimporting. This plugin is good for the most part since ColladaMax and OpenCollada read each others format variants fairly well.
If there's another plugin that you'd like me to put up there, let me test it out a bit and if it works alright then I'll add it to the list.
Custom 3d Models
If you want to submit custom models than you'll have to have had them looked at first in the "Model Discussion" subsection of the forum. This is where you can have your creation critiqued and readied for submission (although you are perfectly welcome to post stuff there you DON'T want to submit as well). Obviously your model should be based off a video game or at the very least some other form of media like a TV show or something based off a video game if you're planning on submitting it.
Other model formats*
Although .DAE and .obj are the recommended formats, you can also submit in a few others as well despite the notice saying "ONLY SUBMIT .OBJ AND .DAE FORMATS PLEASE!".
.SMD - Valve .SMD format is accepted as a substitute for .DAE format. This is because it supports rigged models well and since its supported by a number of programs if not by default then through free plugins.
.3DS - 3D Studio format. Is accepted as a substitute for .obj format, but should be a variant that supports texture assignments.
*More of these may be added in the future.
I don't think anyone here would argue that the regular icons are a bit small and don't give the best idea of what you're downloading. Well now you can make preview images to help avoid that. These are the replacement for the old .RAR/.ZIP download button and are meant to be like a bigger version of the icon to give you a much better idea of what a model looks like. All you need to do to make them is place the picture of the model over this background:
Feel free to save the preview as a .JPG by the way. Quality isn't as big a deal with these so long as they aren't covered in .JPG noise and give a decent preview of the model.
Almost any modern image editor should be able to do this, but if you need a good free one than you can use one of these:
If I missed something please feel free to ask about it.
RE: Submission Guidelines - Lexou Duck - 06-04-2010 07:07 AM
Just asking, does a model come with a skeleton structure ? Or does that just depend on the game ?
RE: Submission Guidelines - Shadowth117 - 06-04-2010 05:24 PM
(06-04-2010 07:07 AM)Lexou Wrote: Just asking, does a model come with a skeleton structure ? Or does that just depend on the game ?
Depends on the game. If it has a skeleton it'll be in .DAE format only since .OBJ doesn't support model rigging.
RE: Submission Guidelines - Girrrtacos - 06-04-2010 06:00 PM
I think a good format to add would be "FBX"- it would contain both the model and the textures. I've found it the easiest to use when picking model formats.
Also, a good addition to the "Sheet Info" would be whether it's rigged or not- an important thing to know when picking out a model.
RE: Submission Guidelines - Shadowth117 - 06-04-2010 07:51 PM
(06-04-2010 06:00 PM)Girrrtacos Wrote: I think a good format to add would be "FBX"- it would contain both the model and the textures. I've found it the easiest to use when picking model formats.
Thanks. I actually have considered FBX before. I was really looking into Collada for a time because it seemed like it was getting really popular and was gaining a lot of support, but in the end not many programs supported it well because of the different variants of it unfortunately. You can put FBX's with your rips even now optionally like I said if you'd like, but for the moment you've got to include a .DAE as well. Your idea for adding a flag or something for if its rigged or not is good too. I guess I'll try and talk to Dazz about adding support for this stuff.
RE: Submission Guidelines - Zerox - 06-15-2010 09:58 PM
I must say I'm excited to see this finally become public. I'd just like to add that .smd may be a good format as well as many programs support it and it retains skeletal data as well. In my opinion it's easier than .dae.
RE: Submission Guidelines - gabrielwoj - 06-16-2010 09:28 PM
Hey! I have opened a NSMBD (3d model of DS's) and how I put on some 3d program?
I would like Blender
RE: Submission Guidelines - Shadowth117 - 06-17-2010 01:25 AM
(06-15-2010 09:58 PM)Zerox Wrote: I must say I'm excited to see this finally become public. I'd just like to add that .smd may be a good format as well as many programs support it and it retains skeletal data as well. In my opinion it's easier than .dae.
Dazz actually gave me the OK to go ahead accepting other formats, but I thought he was going to change the Submissions board message (at which point I would have changed it here), but I guess I'll just change it here for now.
TLDR, if you want to use .SMD format go ahead!
(06-16-2010 09:28 PM)gabrielwoj Wrote: Hey! I have opened a NSMBD (3d model of DS's) and how I put on some 3d program?
You need to use a print screen ripper. No they unfortunately don't rip with bones that way.
Oh yeah and here's a link to Blender: http://www.blender.org/
RE: Submission Guidelines - supermariofan546 - 06-24-2010 05:03 AM
Umm,hello. I made a Kirby model, but for some reason when i export it to obj in Anim8or and lets say import it back after i close the window, the textures disappear. Sorry, Im new to model making, why is this happening?
RE: Submission Guidelines - juhis - 06-24-2010 09:36 AM
(06-24-2010 05:03 AM)supermariofan546 Wrote: Umm,hello. I made a Kirby model, but for some reason when i export it to obj in Anim8or and lets say import it back after i close the window, the textures disappear. Sorry, Im new to model making, why is this happening?
Umm, you should post images, since if you just tell your problem it doesn't gonna help much.
RE: Submission Guidelines - supermariofan546 - 06-24-2010 07:26 PM
(06-24-2010 09:36 AM)juhis Wrote:(06-24-2010 05:03 AM)supermariofan546 Wrote: Umm,hello. I made a Kirby model, but for some reason when i export it to obj in Anim8or and lets say import it back after i close the window, the textures disappear. Sorry, Im new to model making, why is this happening?
Very well. Here it is when I open the project file.
Here it is when I import the .obj file.
RE: Submission Guidelines - Shadowth117 - 06-25-2010 11:26 PM
It could just be because anim8r doesn't support .mtl files which normally store the materials for .obj files. This is what normally causes what you're describing.
Also, questions like this belong in the model discussion sub forum rather than model submission since you're working on a custom model.
RE: Submission Guidelines - Zerox - 07-29-2010 01:00 AM
Are .DAE format's really necessary? I've got hundreds (literally hundreds) of Kingdom Hearts 1, 2, and 2FM models that I've ripped but I don't use the .DAE format because it seems glitchy to me. But should .obj or .3dr be acceptable I got tons.
RE: Submission Guidelines - Shadowth117 - 07-29-2010 01:47 AM
(07-29-2010 01:00 AM)Zerox Wrote: Are .DAE format's really necessary? I've got hundreds (literally hundreds) of Kingdom Hearts 1, 2, and 2FM models that I've ripped but I don't use the .DAE format because it seems glitchy to me. But should .obj or .3dr be acceptable I got tons.
Well .DAE format isn't exactly necessary. Its just a decent format that's recommended for use since it supports bones rather well. You can just submit them in .obj if you like so long as you provide a .mtl. .3dr isn't a usual format and very few programs support it so you can submit in that.
More specifically based on the method you used to rip the models, the normals have to be correct and you must make sure the vertices are welded correctly for submission. I can give you help on doing this if you need it.
RE: Submission Guidelines - Zerox - 07-30-2010 02:07 AM
Nah I know all about how to fix them. The .3dr files are just the unfixed ones. Don't worry I'm on top of it all. =)